A criminal justice expert on the implications of the Karen Read verdict

By Michel Martin

Published June 25, 2025 at 3:15 AM CDT

NPR's Michel Martin speaks David Sarni, a retired NYPD detective and professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, about the implications of the Karen Read verdict and what it might say about the public's trust in law enforcement.

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Michel Martin is the weekend host of All Things Considered, where she draws on her deep reporting and interviewing experience to dig in to the week's news. Outside the studio, she has also hosted "Michel Martin: Going There," an ambitious live event series in collaboration with Member Stations.

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